Question:
when we have two hard disks how does a comp differentiate them(as master and slave)?
invincible
2006-05-28 21:17:27 UTC
what are the differences between master and slave hard disk?
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Titainsrule
2006-05-28 21:19:09 UTC
This is a wild guess, but I think that at the first startup it chooses one to be a primary and one to be a secondary.
mcooper06
2006-05-28 21:26:37 UTC
Physically there is no difference between a slave drive and a master drive. In IDE drives you will need to have both drives plugged into the same IDE ribbon cable and you will need one set to master and one set to slave. I have never seen a BIOS that would boot to a partition that was not on the MASTER drive.



Specifically how does the computer diferentiate them - by jumper settings on the drive itself.
2006-05-28 21:28:27 UTC
Hmm? Both HDD's have a controller. The controller is EPROM and is a small software program. A PC can have only one master HDD. This masters controller runs or controls both HDD's. The master and slave HDD's are determined by a jumper on the HDD's. When the jumper is palced in the master or slave posistion the controller is either turned on or turned off. Slave = controller off. Master = controller on. It is that simple?
adithyaghare
2006-05-28 21:35:55 UTC
The drive you boot from is usually the master drive, which in most cases is "c:" drive. This drive is on which your operating system resides and contains reference programmes of all your applications, no matter where you installed them. The secondary and / or slave drives are basically additional storage areas for your data. The drives are (configured) assigned their letter and status as master/primary or secondary and slave in the BIOS, which you can access by hitting "Del" immediately on boot up or start up of your computer.
2016-11-14 07:54:52 UTC
grasp or Slave relies upon on how the confusing disks are linked to the IDE on motherboard. Your mom board many times comes with a extensive-unfold and Secondary IDE slots, to which ribbon cables are linked. each and each ribbon cable linked to the two extensive-unfold or Secondary splits into 2, of which one serves because of the fact the grasp and the different Slave. bodily it relatively is a single cable wherein 2 IDE units (confusing disks, right here) are chained one after the different, the 1st one being the grasp and the 2d the slave. as nicely this one has the set the jumper on the IDE gadget to grasp or slave. hence by the alerts from the gadget chained to the IDE, the mummy board or ur comp identifies the gadget as grasp or slave.
in_searchof_truefriends
2006-05-29 04:35:19 UTC
Each IDE/ATA channel can support either one or two devices. IDE/ATA devices of course each contain their own integrated controllers, and so in order to maintain order on the channel, it is necessary to have some way of differentiating between the two devices. This is done by giving each device a designation as either master or slave, and then having the controller address commands and data to either one or the other. The drive that is the target of the command responds to it, and the other one ignores the command, remaining silent.



Note that despite the hierarchical-sounding names of "master" and "slave", the master drive does not have any special status compared to the slave one; they are really equals in most respects. The slave drive doesn't rely on the master drive for its operation or anything like that, despite the names (which are poorly-chosen--in the standards the master is usually just "drive 0" and the slave "drive 1"). The only practical difference between master and slave is that the PC considers the master "first" and the slave "second" in general terms. For example, DOS/Windows will assign drive letters to the master drive before the slave drive. If you have a master and slave on the primary IDE channel and each has only one regular, primary partition, the master will be "C:" and the slave "D:". This means that the master drive (on the primary channel) is the one that is booted, and not the slave.



Devices are designated as master or slave using jumpers, small connectors that fit over pairs of pins to program the drive through hardware. Each manufacturer uses a different combination of jumpers for specifying whether its drive is master or slave on the channel, though they are all similar. Some manufacturers put this information right on the top label of the drive itself, while many do not; it sometimes takes some hunting around to find where the jumper pins are on the drive even once you know how the jumpers are supposed to go. The manufacturers are better about this now than they have been in the past, and jumpering information is always available in the manual of the hard disk, or by checking the manufacturer's web site and searching for the model number. I describe (and illustrate) the jumpers on IDE/ATA disks in detail in the section on hard disk construction. For a fundamental description of what jumpers are, see here.



ATAPI devices such as optical, Zip and tape drives are jumpered in pretty much the same way as hard disks. They have the advantage of often having their jumpers much more clearly labeled than their hard disk counterparts. Most optical drives, for example, have three jumper blocks at the back, labeled "MA" (master), "SL" (slave) or "CS" (cable select).



If you are using two drives on a channel, it is important to ensure that they are jumpered correctly. Making both drives the master, or both the slave, will likely result in a very confused system. Note that in terms of configuration, it makes no difference which connector on the standard IDE cable is used in a standard IDE setup, because it is the jumpers that control master and slave, not the cable. This does not apply when cable select is being used, however. Also, there can be electrical signaling issues if one connects a single drive to only the middle connector on a cable, leaving the end connector unattached. In particular, the use of Ultra DMA is not supported in such a configuration; see the discussion of the 80-conductor Ultra DMA cable for more information.



As long as one drive is jumpered as master and the other as slave, any two IDE/ATA/ATAPI devices should work together on a single channel. Unfortunately, some older hard disks will fail to work properly when they are placed on a channel with another manufacturer's disk. One of the reasons why drives don't always "play nicely together" has to do with the Drive Active / Signal Present (/DASP) signal. This is an IDE/ATA interface signal carried on pin #39, which is used for two functions: indicating that a drive is active (during operation), and also indicating that a slave drive is present on the channel (at startup). Some early drives don't handle this signal properly, a residue of poor adherence to ATA standards many years ago. If an older slave drive won't work with a newer master, see if your master drive has an "SP" (slave present) jumper, and if so, enable it. This may allow the slave drive to be detected.



Drive compatibility problems can be extremely frustrating, and beyond the suggestion above, there usually is no solution, other than separating the drives onto different channels. Sometimes brand X won't work as a slave when brand Y is the master, but X will work as a master when Y is the slave! Modern drives adhere to the formal ATA standards and so as time goes on and more of these older "problem" drives fall out of the market, making all of this less and less of a concern. Any hard disk bought in the last five years should work just fine with any other of the same vintage or newer.



When using only a single drive on a channel, there are some considerations to be aware of. Some hard disks have only a jumper for master or slave; when the drive is being used solo on a channel it should be set to master. Other manufacturers, notably Western Digital, actually have three settings for their drives: master, slave, and single. The last setting is intended for use when the drive is alone on the channel. This type of disk should be set to single, and not master, when being used alone.



Also, a single device on an IDE channel "officially" should not be jumpered as a slave. In practice, this will often work despite being formally "illegal". Many ATAPI drives come jumpered by default as slave--because they are often made slaves to a hard disk's master on the primary IDE channel, this saves setup time. However, for performance reasons they are sometimes put on the secondary channel, and often the system assemblers don't bother to change the jumpers. It will work, but I don't recommend it; if nothing more, it's confusing to find a slave with no master when you or someone else goes back into the box a year or two later to upgrade.



For performance reasons, it is better to avoid mixing slower and faster devices on the same channel. If you are going to share a channel between a hard disk and an ATAPI device, it is generally a good idea to make the hard disk the master. In some situations there can be problems slaving a hard disk to an optical drive; it will usually work but it is non-standard, and since there is no advantage to making the ATAPI device the master, the configuration is best avoided.



There are many more performance considerations to take into account when deciding how to jumper your IDE devices, if you are using several different ones on more than one channel. Since only one of the master and slave can use any channel at a time, there are sometimes advantages to using more than one IDE/ATA channel even if not strictly necessary based on the number of devices you are trying to support. There can also be issues with using a drive that has support for a fast transfer mode like Ultra DMA with older devices that don't support these faster modes.
spmdrumbass
2006-05-28 21:19:01 UTC
No real difference; that's just how the BIOS and the operating system can tell them apart because you can hook two drives to each channel.



This only applies to parallel ATA systems. On more recent serial ATA systems, there isn't a master-slave thing for drives.
rezazandieh
2006-05-29 01:42:11 UTC
a healthy hdd can be master and slave

but boot strab loader from bios in boot proceses seek os files from master hdd for first then seek for os slave hdd



all hdd setting to master status by manufacture

if you want seeting hdd to slave you can change this setting by jumbers switch, you can see this jumper near data cable connection and you can see a map for setting jumper that printed blow of hdd spsecification dont forget slave setting just you have two hdd device on one cable
jt_tarantula2005
2006-05-28 23:23:36 UTC
ur master hard drive will b drive c: and ur slave will b drive d: that is tha way they r different from each other.
butchell
2006-05-28 21:21:28 UTC
didn't I just answer you?


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